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za 23 jul 2011, 02:51

hiding and lies lifeless on the beach at Utøya. Photo: VEGARD M. AAS / PRESSE30.NO. Eyewitness: - So, at least 30 killed in Utøya
Eyewitness reports dozens killed in Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya. - We saw many dead in the water, says a witness told NRK.

Friday, 22.07.2011, kl. 6:04 p.m.

Updated: Friday, 22.07.2011, kl. 9:19 p.m.

(ABC News): The message is so far not confirmed by others.

We'll be back with more on the number.

Earlier Friday released a man dressed as a policeman several shots at the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya in Buskerud.

A witness says to NRK that it was used both shotguns, handguns and automatic weapons.

- A man in police uniform to have attracted young people by saying "come here" and then usually just executed them, said witnesses to NRK reporter on the spot...


..Based on what I have seen at least four people were shot and killed. Now it's complete panic and we swim off to get to safety, said Adrian Pracon County Secretary Telemark AUF to Beacon earlier Friday.

More twitter messages from desperate youths Utøya asked that no one had to call them because they are hiding.
Bron: http://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/110722 ... n-pa-utoya
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za 23 jul 2011, 02:58

ven denken hoor, Noorwegen hoort niet bij de EU wel bij de NATO... Is knettertje rijk... willen ze Noorwegen alsnog bij de EU? de euro opdringen? Of heeft het wat met die vage spiraal van vorig jaar te maken toen Obama daar ook was?? Of misschien met die enorme zaden-bank...???


Dan zit je warmer denk bapho vriend
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za 23 jul 2011, 02:58

[quote=""baphomet" post=37551"]Echt vreselijk voor de slachtoffers... :(

Ik zet maar een muziekje op...

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Ja vreselijk, het zal maar je kind of partner zijn :sick:
In de erfenis der eeuwen ligt veel wijsheid opgetast. Ook hier geldt: dwaas is hij die zijn eigen geschiedenis versmaadt.
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:00

Speciaal voor de Noren nog maar wat muziek vol met goede vibes!!

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za 23 jul 2011, 03:06

[quote=""Soul_ripper" post=37553"]ven denken hoor, Noorwegen hoort niet bij de EU wel bij de NATO... Is knettertje rijk... willen ze Noorwegen alsnog bij de EU? de euro opdringen? Of heeft het wat met die vage spiraal van vorig jaar te maken toen Obama daar ook was?? Of misschien met die enorme zaden-bank...???


Dan zit je warmer denk bapho vriend[/quote]

Welke optie wordt het...

( A ) Noorwegen hoort niet bij de EU wel bij de NATO... Is knettertje rijk... Ze willen Noorwegen alsnog bij de EU...

( B ) De Euro die ze op willen dringen aan Noorwegen om zo het gat van de grieken te dichten...

( C ) De vage spiraal van vorig jaar te maken toen Obama daar ook was...

( D ) De enorme zaden-bank in Noorwegen...

( E ) Een False Flag aanslag om meer moslimhaat te zaaien...

( F ) De Israëliërs hebben laten weten dat ze het niet cool vinden dat Noorwegen Hamas en de Palestijnen erkent...

( G ) Ome Mo QadaFFi heeft wraak genomen voor de bommen die de Noren op Libië hebben gesmeten...

( H ) Het is wraak van de Moslims omdat er 406 Noorse soldaten en 6 Noorse F16 vliegtuigen in Afghanistan deelnemen aan de oorlog...

Wie het weet mag het zeggen... Doorhalen wat niet van toepassing is... ROFL
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:07

Factbox: Norway security outlook: "Increased uncertainty"

(Reuters) - A bomb devastated the main government building in Norway's capital Oslo Friday, killing seven people, and a gunman wounded five people hours later in a shooting at a Norwegian youth camp, state media reported.

Following are excerpts from the unclassified 2011 national security outlook published by the Norway Police Security Service (PST) in February 2011.

ISLAMIST MILITANTS

-- The radicalization and international contacts of some individuals monitored by the PST present "a terrorism threat picture that is characterized by increased uncertainty."

-- "Even though few individuals in Norway support extreme Islamism, there is activity in certain communities which can contribute to a heightening of the threat situation in 2011."

-- "There are three main areas where we expect developments to affect the threat picture in Norway in the year ahead."

-- "Firstly, a steadily increasing level of radicalization will take place in public and through social media. Secondly, visits to regions of conflict will continue, for the purpose of training or participation in battle. Thirdly, extreme Islamists in Norway will become more globally oriented."

-- "It is primarily (the more globally oriented militants) who could present a direct threat to Norway in the year ahead."

POSSIBILITY OF ARMED ATTACKS

-- "There is always a high degree of uncertainty about the time and place of possible terrorist acts, including in Norway."

-- "Although a terrorist act in itself can be limited in scope, and the likelihood that it would affect an individual is low, a terrorist act can have huge consequences as a result of the fear it would create in the population."

THE FAR RIGHT

-- "Far-right extremists in Norway have only been slightly active in recent years. However, the trend that saw an increased level of activity in 2010 is expected to continue in 2011."

-- "Several players would like to revive the far-right extremist communities. However, the lack of strong leaders limits the growth of these groups."

-- "Norwegian far-right extremists are in contact with Swedish far-right extremists, as well as with other far-right extremist groups in Europe. Contact also takes place between Norwegian and Russian far-right extremists."

-- "An increased level of activity among some anti- Islamic groups could lead to increased polarization and unease, especially during, and in connection with, commemorations and demonstrations."

bron http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... VZ20110722
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:09

[quote=""Toxopeus" post=37555"][quote=""baphomet" post=37551"]Echt vreselijk voor de slachtoffers... :(

Ik zet maar een muziekje op...

[video][/video][/quote]

Ja vreselijk, het zal maar je kind of partner zijn :sick:[/quote]

Inderdaad Toxo, daarom ook een muziekje van Bob ter nagedachtenis van de gevallenen...
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[quote=""Aillas" post=37558"]Factbox: Norway security outlook: "Increased uncertainty"

(Reuters) - A bomb devastated the main government building in Norway's capital Oslo Friday, killing seven people, and a gunman wounded five people hours later in a shooting at a Norwegian youth camp, state media reported.

Following are excerpts from the unclassified 2011 national security outlook published by the Norway Police Security Service (PST) in February 2011.

ISLAMIST MILITANTS

-- The radicalization and international contacts of some individuals monitored by the PST present "a terrorism threat picture that is characterized by increased uncertainty."

-- "Even though few individuals in Norway support extreme Islamism, there is activity in certain communities which can contribute to a heightening of the threat situation in 2011."

-- "There are three main areas where we expect developments to affect the threat picture in Norway in the year ahead."

-- "Firstly, a steadily increasing level of radicalization will take place in public and through social media. Secondly, visits to regions of conflict will continue, for the purpose of training or participation in battle. Thirdly, extreme Islamists in Norway will become more globally oriented."

-- "It is primarily (the more globally oriented militants) who could present a direct threat to Norway in the year ahead."

POSSIBILITY OF ARMED ATTACKS

-- "There is always a high degree of uncertainty about the time and place of possible terrorist acts, including in Norway."

-- "Although a terrorist act in itself can be limited in scope, and the likelihood that it would affect an individual is low, a terrorist act can have huge consequences as a result of the fear it would create in the population."

THE FAR RIGHT

-- "Far-right extremists in Norway have only been slightly active in recent years. However, the trend that saw an increased level of activity in 2010 is expected to continue in 2011."

-- "Several players would like to revive the far-right extremist communities. However, the lack of strong leaders limits the growth of these groups."

-- "Norwegian far-right extremists are in contact with Swedish far-right extremists, as well as with other far-right extremist groups in Europe. Contact also takes place between Norwegian and Russian far-right extremists."

-- "An increased level of activity among some anti- Islamic groups could lead to increased polarization and unease, especially during, and in connection with, commemorations and demonstrations."

bron http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... VZ20110722[/quote]

Thanks! Weer wat interessante aanknopingspunten... de MSM is hard bezig met beeldvorming in ieder geval
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:15

En laten we ons goed beseffen dat hoe meer info we in dit draadje neerknallen hoe hoger dit op google verschijnt als mensen zoeken op aanslag Oslo... En hoe meer mensen inzicht krijgen in de echte feiten hoe beter en draadjes naar aanleiding van gebeurtenissen als deze, en dan met name als ze op chronologische wijze met de data van de gebeurtenissen gevuld zijn...

Hoe hoger wij ons tussen de MSM nestelen op Google hoe groter de kans is op dat mensen de waarheid vinden...
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:18

tja.............
de MSM was wel snel met verdenkingen naar de jihad-beweging, zowel nationaal als internationaal. Zelfs met de compleet bijbehorende 'diepte' interviews.....

Misschien hebben ze wel gelijk....kan natuurlijk....maar het 1 en ander lijkt vooralsnog niet gefundeerd te zijn.........
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:19

The Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, is on Monday visiting Norway for political talks with Foreign Minister Jons Gahr Støre. On the agenda for the talks and a working lunch are the peace process and the situation in the Palestinian areas. The two will also sign an agreement on the upgrading of the Palestinian representation office in Oslo, which will mean that the Palestinian representative becomes ambassador.
bron: http://www.norwaynews.com/en/~view.php? ... Gzo353L5W8
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:23

[quote=""Aillas" post=37562"]tja.............
de MSM was wel snel met verdenkingen naar de jihad-beweging, zowel nationaal als internationaal. Zelfs met de compleet bijbehorende 'diepte' interviews.....

Misschien hebben ze wel gelijk....kan natuurlijk....maar het 1 en ander lijkt vooralsnog niet gefundeerd te zijn.........[/quote]

Daarom ben ik direct toen ik tijdens het kopen van ongebleekte vloei in de QoFFee Shop (De Blije Hoek) op de TV aldaar zag dat er een extra nieuwsuitzending aan zat te komen, naar huis gegaan om een draad aan te maken. Vervolgens alle ontwikkelingen blijven posten net als Combi dat destijds weergaloos deed met de brand in Moerdijk... Hoe meer je verzameld in de comments van een topic hoe makkelijker je dingen later uit kunt pluizen, daar men nog wel eens aan het gummen wil slaan in de MSM na een 'event'...
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:26

Snap Analysis: No clear pointers in Norway twin attacks
LONDON (Reuters)- Security experts say suspicion is likely to fall on both Islamists and right-wing extremists following a deadly bombing and a shooting at a political gathering in tranquil Norway.

It was not clear if the attacks were linked, but the possibility of a complex, hybrid assault made it difficult to make an early call as to the likely political orientation of the assailants, security experts said.

A big bomb damaged Norway's main government building in the capital Oslo on Friday and police said seven people were killed and two badly wounded. There was no claim of responsibility.

Shortly afterwards, reports in local media came through of a shooting incident at Utoeya, an island south of Oslo where Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg's Labour party youth section's yearly gathering was taking place. Daily newspaper VG said on its website a man dressed as a policeman was shooting wildly and had hit many people.TV2 said several people were killed. Bombings in city centers and marauding guns attacks are both tactics that have been used by Islamist militant gangs in recent years, mostly notably by al Qaeda-aligned guerrilla groups in Asia.

But in one unconfirmed report, the London-based Exclusive Analysis risk consultancy said the man in the shooting incident apparently infiltrated the party gathering on the pretence that he had been sent by the police as a security measure in the wake of the Oslo explosion.

"As such, it is likely he was ethnically Norwegian. This could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group, though it is also the case that the Labour Party would be a favorable target for Islamist groups due to its role in authorising Norwegian military deployments in Afghanistan," it said.

NATO member Norway has been the target of threats, if not bombs, before, notably over its involvement in conflicts in Afghanistan and Libya.

But Exclusive Analysis said there were no known domestic militant groups in Norway with the capability to stage large car bomb attacks.

The attacks happened just over a year after three men were arrested on suspicion of having links to al Qaeda and planning to attack targets in Norway.

Violence or the threat of it has already come to the other Nordic states: a botched bomb attack took place in the Swedish capital Stockholm last December and the bomber was killed.

Denmark has received repeated threats after a newspaper published cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad in late 2005, angering Muslims worldwide.

If Islamist militants are eventually found to be responsible, it would be the first such attack to have killed victims in Europe since suicide bombings in London killed 52 people in 2005.

"We need to be cautious because so little is known, but a bombing of this sort is either the work of far-right or Islamist militants," said Majeed Nawaz, who heads Britain's Quilliam counter-extremism think tank.

"Of the two, Islamists are the more likely."

A prominent militant propagandist called the bombings a "lesson" for other European countries and speculated that extremists were behind the attack, according to the SITE terrorism monitoring service.

MILITANT SAYS BOMB IS "LESSON"

In a message posted on the password-protected Shumukh al-Islam forum, the militant, who writes under the name of Abu Suleiman al-Nasser, said that the Oslo bombings are "another message arriving in the countries of Europe from the mujahideen (holy warriors)."

Al-Nasser has made several threats to European countries participating in the war in Afghanistan, SITE said.

Another posting by a participant called Emir Grozny said: "Threat against the Prime Minister of Norway. You have only moments to withdraw your soldiers from the grave of Khurasan and if not... you will see blood running in the streets."

However, the fact that the message was posted after the event means it cannot yet be confirmed if this individual had any relation to the attack, Exclusive Analysis said.

Security experts said Western intelligence agencies will be monitoring militant online discussion forums like Shumukh and the phones and emails of known militant sympathizers and suspects to detect clues to the identity of the perpetrators.

They will also be likely to be monitoring right-wing extremists, some said.

Anna Murison of Exclusive Analysis said Norway was not a priority country for jihadists, and any al Qaeda targeting of Norway would probably be opportunistic, based on the fact that it had happened to recruit a Norwegian.

"We also assess that any plans for spectacular attacks in Western Europe would probably have been altered or put on hold following (Osama) bin Laden's death, pending internal security reviews," she said, referring to the killing of the al Qaeda leader in a U.S. raid in Pakistan in May.

"A further possibility, therefore, is that the attack was led by Norwegian jihadist sympathizers acting on their own initiative, possibly after receiving basic training from jihadist groups overseas."

NORWAY SEEN AS MEMBER OF "CRUSADER" ALLIANCE

NATO member Norway has sometimes in the past been threatened by leaders of al Qaeda for its involvement in Afghanistan.

But political violence is virtually unknown in a country known for sponsoring the Nobel Peace Prize and mediating in conflicts, including in the Middle East and Sri Lanka.

It has also taken part in the NATO bombing of Libya, whose leader Muammar Gaddafi has threatened to strike back in Europe.

In a July 2010 article in the Atlantic magazine, Norwegian academic Thomas Hegghammer, one of the world's leading scholars of Islamist extremism, cited three possible reasons why "international good guy" Norway was of interest to al Qaeda.

The article, co-authored with political scientist Dominic Tierney, said Afghanistan and the cartoon issue were possible factors.

Norway has been in the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan from its foundation in late 2001. And in early 2006, a small Norwegian newspaper angered many Muslims by reprinting Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

A third possibility was Norway's placing under house arrest of an Iraqi Kurdish Islamist, Mullah Krekar, a onetime leader of a guerrilla group, Ansar al-Islam. However, there was little or no evidence that al-Qaeda cared enough about Mullah Krekar to seek vengeance, Hegghammer and Tierney said.

"It may be pointless to search for a single grievance to explain the recent plot. Most likely, a combination of factors placed Norway on the jihadists' radar. In al-Qaeda's binary worldview, Norway is part of the 'Jewish-Crusader alliance' -- not a platinum member, perhaps, but a member nonetheless. If you're not with al-Qaeda, you're with the United States."

bron: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... K020110722
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:32

[quote=""baphomet" post=37557"][quote=""Soul_ripper" post=37553"]ven denken hoor, Noorwegen hoort niet bij de EU wel bij de NATO... Is knettertje rijk... willen ze Noorwegen alsnog bij de EU? de euro opdringen? Of heeft het wat met die vage spiraal van vorig jaar te maken toen Obama daar ook was?? Of misschien met die enorme zaden-bank...???


Dan zit je warmer denk bapho vriend[/quote]

Welke optie wordt het...

( A ) Noorwegen hoort niet bij de EU wel bij de NATO... Is knettertje rijk... Ze willen Noorwegen alsnog bij de EU...


( C ) De vage spiraal van vorig jaar te maken toen Obama daar ook was...

( E ) Een False Flag aanslag om meer moslimhaat te zaaien...



( G ) Ome Mo QadaFFi ???? Poppetje van de draco's


Wie het weet mag het zeggen... Doorhalen wat niet van toepassing is... ROFL[/quote]

Die 3 blijven over , en nog wat anti-christ op aarde theorieen maar das niet voor hier.
Alles wat reuters nos geenstijl cnn fox etc vertelt is het "niet". Joepie
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za 23 jul 2011, 03:35

july 22, 1946 – King David Hotel bombing: a Zionist underground organisation, the Irgun, bombs the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, site of the civil administration and military headquarters for Mandattee Palestine, resulting in 91 deaths.
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