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This is just a quick note to say that the Official version of Symbols of an Alien Sky is now posted on YouTube:


Our YouTube Channel has begun to explode (in the most favorable sense of the term), and we'd appreciate any and all initiatives within the Electric Universe community to help us get the word out.

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It's a shame that the predictive power of a theory is no longer important in math-based modern? cosmology. I remember Wal Thornhill's successful predictions in this regard, along with many others, on his holoscience web site ... many years ago.

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In de loop der jaren heb ik allerlei uitspraken van Jno in fora gezet. In niboeboe werd ik hierdoor finaal neergesabeld ook in grenswetenschaap waren en zijn ze niet van mijn posts gediend, hoppa de grenswetenschaap hakbijl in mijne nek, neermaaien die handel is die hollandische mantra!

Ook Tsarion was niet van mijn aanwezigheid in zijn forum gediend en liet lakeien het vuile werk opknappen.

Bij david icke zijn ze vriendelijker alhoewel in het begin werden mijn posts over saturnus & venus en de daarbij behorende symbolen info niet geheel op prijs gesteld want veel van david zijn info bleek namelijk volkomen kut.

Bij deze de gehele boel op een rij nogmaals bedankt Jno Cook:

• The mention in many creation myths of a period of darkness preceding creation can be dated to the early Neolithic or late Upper Paleolithic and is likely the result of nanometer dust particles in the stratosphere after a massive compressive force and lightning strikes by Saturn in North America. This caused the worldwide period of extreme cold, drought, and darkness, recognized today as the Younger Dryas period. For more on this see the chapters "Tunguska and Chicxulub" and "The Younger Dryas," with additional Mesoamerican retellings in the chapters "The Chilam Balam" and "The Popol Vuh." The cataclysm is addressed in papers by Richard Firestone, et alii, in 2001 (Mammoth Trumpet Magazine), and in 2007 (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences).

• The clouded swirling skies which are found at the start of most creation myths are the result of Earth falling into a subpolar orbit with Saturn and subsequently entering the lower plasma plumes of Saturn's coma. See the chapter "The Event of the Younger Dryas" for a narrative and a consideration of the dynamics. This also coincided with the start of the Hypsithermal period in 9500 BC (for which see the chapter "A Timeline and Gimbutas").

• While traveling through the lower plasma formation of Saturn's coma, the Earth three times (at the two edges of the cup form and once at the center spike) experienced the formation of three ball plasmoids 150,000 to 400,000 miles below the South Pole, with lines of electrons connecting these and running past Earth to an object in the north skies. This started in 8347 BC, and ended probably in about 4200 BC. This was investigated by the team led by Anthony Peratt (of Los Alamos National Laboratory), and published in 2003 and 2007 in the IEEE Transactions on Plasma Science. The dates are from my findings.

• The ubiquitous female figurines found in the millions on millions worldwide, dating from the Upper Paleolithic and the Neolithic, are representations of Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, Mercury, and Mars as seen together in the skies overhead, enclosed in a coma. Discussed in the chapter "A Timeline and Gimbutas."

• The event (flood) of 3147 BC is visually correctly identified by Sumerian and Bible sources (although shifted to a narrative of 2349 BC) if it is assumed that Saturn and its planets passed Jupiter on the inside of Jupiter's orbit (at that time close to the Sun). The current orbital inclinations of the outer planets matches the expected vertical separations of the planets in 3147 BC. Discussed in Appendix B.

• The Palette of Narmer depicts Venus, Mars, and Uranus, where the pharaoh figure is Horus/Mars (and dressed as Saturn) -- not some battle of unification for prehistoric Egypt, and with Mercury as the sandal bearer of the pharaoh. The bee and the sedge, as in "He of the Bee and the Sedge," is the pharaoh as Saturn, with Venus as the bee and Uranus as the sedge. See the chapters "The Creation," "The Start of Time," and the Appendix "The Palette of Narmer."

• The raven and dove let out by Noah to test the waters can be identified as the planets Uranus and Venus as seen from Earth directly after 3147 BC. The Mesopotamian flood myths identifies the same planets and adds Mercury.

• The report in the Bible and in Mesopotamian legends (and hundreds of additional flood legends) of a ship landing on a mountain after the flood is the backlighted crescent of Jupiter on top of a massive outpouring of plasma from the south pole of Jupiter. In Egypt, as in some Mesopotamian retellings of this event, this is also understood as an approaching celestial bull, which destroyed the city of the Gods.

• The biannual sightings of Mars between 3070 BC and 2750 BC are recorded as events in the dynastic records of the Palermo Stone of Egypt. See the chapter "Pyramids and Henges."

• The orbits of the inner planets have changed only minimally since 3147 BC. Most changes involved altered ellipticity or a rotation of the second nodal point. Planets have to line up exactly with the Sun to result in an electrical interaction of their plasmaspheres.

• The few interactions with Venus (which have been presented as "collisions" by others) occurred at distances of 10,000,000 and 20,000,000 miles. Electrical interactions with Mars occurred at much closer distances, but probably no closer than 40,000 miles. Details in various chapters and Appendix B.

• The orbit of Earth enlarged four times since 3147 BC: in 2349 BC, 2193 BC, 1492 BC, and 747 BC. See Appendix B, "Celestial Mechanics." Each time the Earth reached a different location from the Sun, it needed to adjust its charge level, and plumes of plasma extended up from the magnetic poles, lasting years.

• Both the north and the south plumes (probably extending up some 10 or 20 Earth diameters) were seen throughout the world. The ends moved with the rotation of the magnetosphere, making them look like they were waving in a wind. The people of Mesoamerica called them trees. Egypt and Mesopotamia called them braziers or flags and recorded them in seals and sculptures. Mesoamerica in two instances provides a count of how many times this happened. The plumes were detected in dark mode plasma in 2009.

• The Earth had equatorial rings until 2349 BC (like all other planets with a magnetic field), called the "Absu" in Sumer and the "Duat" in Egypt (and the "House of Nine Bushes" in Mesoamerica). The Egyptian "doorway to the other world" is the shadow of Earth cast on the equatorial rings, the Duat. This is discussed in a number of places, first in the chapter "The Absu and Speculation" and in more detail in later chapters. The "flood of Noah" consisted of the sudden removal of the equatorial rings, and was accompanied by severe storms and rains.

• The Moon appeared near Earth after 2349 BC, when the Earth's orbit increased, but did not fall into a regular orbit shared with Earth until perhaps about 2280 BC. The legendary emperors (gods) of China, Yao and Shun, are Jupiter and the Moon. Likewise for Abraham and Isaac. These two were depicted in Mesopotamia also, as the victory stele of Naram-Sin, the great grandson of Sargon, showing Jupiter with his mountain.

• While Jupiter was in the asteroid belt, the mountain form of the lower plasma disappeared. Instead, the plasma from Jupiter's south pole extended directly left and right to the asteroids and curved up further away. These are the ram horns of Amun-Ra. It is called the "shen" in its simplest form in Egypt (a circle on a flat line), and is depicted as a boat almost everywhere in antiquity. See the chapter "The Career of Jupiter."

• Jupiter's coma tripled in size in about 2527 BC as it left the asteroid belt, but lost its coma again by 2438 BC. The coma returned in 2349 BC (the "flood of Noah"), but eventually reduced to the visual size of the Moon. In 2150 BC Jupiter flared up (caught on fire) and extinguished.

• The Bible identifies the flare-up of Jupiter as the first "Tower of Babel" event. The date is most likely 2150 BC. There was a similar event involving Mercury, much later and thus better remembered, in 686 BC. It is this last flare-up which was remembered worldwide, and is also identified with the "Tower of Babel."

• The Olmec Long Count calendar was instituted on February 28, 747 BC (astronomical year -747). This is also the first full day of the Babylonian "Era of Nabonasser," and the day before the start of the new Roman calendar. The Olmecs added 2400 Tuns (years of 360 days) to account for the past history in solar years, resulting in a Long Count notation starting at 6.0.0.0.0. This is discussed in the chapter "The Maya Calendar."

• As a result of instituting the Long Count in 747 BC, the Maya/Olmec creation date of 3147 BC is accurate as the date for the terminal event of the polar alignment of Saturn -- in solar years. Our use of the date of 3114 BC is based on a year of 365.24 days. Later retrocalculations by the Maya also used a year of 365.24 days.

• The Venus Tablets of Ammizaduga are correctly dated to the period of 689 BC to 667 BC (in Eastern Mediterranean chronology). See the chapters "The Tablets of Ammizaduga" and "The Hour of Phaethon."

• Venus and Mercury blazed like suns in 685 BC (the year corrected from Eastern Mediterranean chronology) for 40 days, as the result of an unprecedented output by the Sun, which was brought on by the sudden reduction in the orbit of Mercury in the year previous. This electrical event changed the inclination of the Earth's axis.

• A thunderbolt from Jupiter which landed at the Sun on July 25, 685 BC brought the blazing of Venus and Mercury to an end. This is what is recounted in the legend of Phaethon. The calendar dates and intervals are recorded by the Chilam Balam and are celebrated in Mesoamerica with site alignments to the corresponding sunsets, and as new year's day.

• In 685 BC the Earth's axis relocated from the center of the pan of Ursa Major to a location nearer Kochab (called "pole star" in ancient sources) in Ursa Minor over a period of 40 days. Discussed in the chapter "The Hour of Phaethon."

• Before 685 BC, the intersection of the equatorial and the ecliptic was directly below the Pleiades. Thus the Pleiades were seen directly above the rising Sun at the spring equinox. This is attested to worldwide, and matches retrocalculations for the previous location of the Earth's rotational axis. There was no precession of the equinoxes before 747 BC.

• In 685 BC the equinoxes moved 15 days into the future. This did not change the length of the year, but it changed religious feast days worldwide. The inclination of the Earth's axis assumed the current value of 23.5 degrees. It was 30 degrees before that time.

• The last part of Book Five of the Sibylline Oracle Books (of AD 115) accurately recounts the changes in the sky in 685 BC. Details can be found in the chapter "Sibylline Star Wars."

• The alignments of ceremonial centers with distant volcanoes in the Olmec region and the Valley of Mexico accurately recall the calendar dates (the horizon locations of the setting Sun) of the catastrophic events of 3147 BC, 2349 BC, 1492 BC, 747 BC, and the axial change of 685 BC. See the chapter "Olmec Site Alignments."

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Voor degene die gisteren in de shout het verhaal/de uitleg van Doc mee gekregen hebben een klein beetje meer info:

Cardona Interview on Saturn Theory

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Sagittarius is a large constellation in the southern hemisphere. Its name means "archer" in Latin. The constellation has its roots in Sumerian culture, but is traditionally depicted as a centaur, half-man, half-horse found in Greek myths. The centaur is depicted wearing a cloak and drawing his bow, aiming an arrow at the heart of Scorpius, the star [7516] Antares. Eratosthenes saw the constellation not as a centaur, but as Crotus, son of the nature god Pan and Eupheme, the nurse to the Muses. Crotus had two legs, not four, and the tail of a satyr. He is said to have invented archery. He lived in the company of the Muses, who asked Zeus to place him in the sky.

Sagittarius is sometimes also identified with the centaur Chiron, son of the titan Cronos and the nymph Philyra. Chiron mentored many Greek heroes: Ajax, Aeneas, Theseus, Achilles, Jason, Heracles and the healer Asclepius among others. He is, however, more commonly associated with the constellation Centaurus.

Ancient Babylonians associated Sagittarius with the god Pabilsa?, who had two heads (one panther, one human), wings and was sometimes called "the wild bull with multicoloured legs."

The constellation Sagittarius occupies an area of 867 square degrees and contains 16 stars with known planets. It can be seen at latitudes between +55° and -90° and is best visible at 9 p.m. during the month of August. Sagittarius lies between the constellations Ophiuchus and Capricornus. It is the constellation that contains the greatest number of stars with known planets. The Sun passes through Sagittarius between December 16 and January 14 in sidereal astrology and from November 23 to December 21 in tropical astrology.

Sagittarius has many bright stars. The brightest ones – [7300] delta, [7297] epsilon, [7299] zeta, [7305] phi, [7301] lambda, [7303] gamma-2, [7298] sigma and [7306] tau Sagittarii – form a discernible asterism called the Teapot.

http://www.topastronomer.com/StarCharts ... tarius.php

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Pabilsa? /pabilsa?/, in Mesopotamian tradition was a tutelary god of the city of Isin. The consort of the goddess Nininsinna, he was identified with the lost city of Larak.

The text Pabilsag's journey to Nibru describes Pabilsag as journeying to Nippur and presenting the god Enlil with gifts. He was given the epithet of "the wild bull with multicoloured legs".

According to the ancient Babylonian text, Pabilsag wedded Nininsina near a riverbank.

He is represented in the constellation Sagittarius.

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Re my idea that proto-Saturn's possible motion in and out of Birkeland currents may have caused its flare-ups, you said: "It gets weirder because proto-Saturn's capture involved the collision of the Milky Way with a foreign galaxy."

- That's indeed very weird. I remember a TB forum discussion about the Sun possibly having been from the other galaxy. Have you been able to determine whether it was probably the Sun or proto-Saturn, or neither, that came from the other galaxy? It would be quite incredible, if, not only was Earth etc not part of the Solar System over ten thousand years ago, but that it or the Sun was not even part of this galaxy.

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Astrophysicists have been shying away from the problem. But, to judge by what has been discovered so far, the Solar System's cosmic neighborhood is still quite chaotic, with the System itself dangerously close to instability. Stellar clues indicate that quite a few stars are actually foreigners within the Milky Way. These stars belong to the invading galaxy, now named Sagittarius, which is slicing through the Milky Way at right angles in the very area occupied by our Solar System. Traffic in our cosmic neighborhood is quite heavy, with bodies in the Kuiper belt bearing the imprint of recent disruption by a passing larger body, which could very well have been proto-Saturn on its spiraling way toward the Sun. There is no indication yet that our present Sun belonged to Sagittarius, but, at least in my opinion, Earth and proto-Saturn definitely did. The evidence is all out there, and some of it is scary.(end)

The fact that the Milky Way is seen in the sky at an angle has always puzzled astronomers. If we originated from the Milky Way, we ought to be oriented to the galaxy's ecliptic, with the planets aligned around our Sun in much the same angle as our Sun aligns with the Milky Way. Instead, as first suggested by researcher Matthew Perkins Erwin, the odd angle suggests that our Sun is influenced by some other system. Together with data from the Two-Micron All Sky Survey we now know what it is. We actually belong to the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy.
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schitterend machtig prachtig en zo duidelijk ook!

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duidelijk is niet aktijd beter :whistle:


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mooie reacties en weer zo duidelijk

af en toe proberen matrix kutkammers nog een beetje onduidelijkheid te introduceren zoals Richard:

I understand much of what he is referring to but what is he actually saying? He seems to be simply quoting many proponents of black hole theory. Nothing more...

Richard snapt er geen ruk van en omdat te maskeren begint ie al met te beweren dat die er veel van snappe...


Steve zijn reactie is altijd weer even duidelijk:

Richard, if you can't follow the audio, read the transcript under the "show more" button. My quotations illustrate the contradictions and errors in the arguments for the black hole, which I expose. For example, neither the Principle of Equivalence nor Special Relativity can manifest in a spacetime that by mathematical construcition contains? no matter. But the black hole relates to a spacetime that by mathematical construction contains no matter!


Moraal van het verhaal matrixkutkammers willen geen duidelijkheid.Het enige wat ze willen is een vage comfortzone.
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In het kader van zeg het met plaatjes, van de film hierboven gepost.

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1) Earth, Mars, and Neptune (and possibly the Moon) were all planets (satellites) of the star Saturn, and had been orbiting Saturn for billions of years since their creation when, shortly before the Cambrian, 560 million years ago, Saturn intersected with the Solar System -- perhaps for the first time.

2) Saturn swept around the Sun like a comet, to return every 26,000,000 or 27,000,000 years, still with the original planets in tow.

3) Over time, some of Saturn's planets were captured by the Sun. This happened to Earth after the Permian, 250 million years ago.

4) The return of Saturn at 27,000,000-year intervals was responsible for the periodic extinctions which the Earth has experienced since the Cambrian. On traveling through the plasmasphere of the Sun, Saturn would attempt to discharge to any nearby objects, including, of course, Earth. (This would be true whether Earth traveled with Saturn as a satellite, or Earth was already orbiting the Sun.)

5) Extinctions were thus most likely to have been caused by an initial electrical repulsive shock followed by massive electrical discharges (arcing) from Saturn when at or near perihelion in its path around the Sun.

6) The specificity of the extent of many extinctions can probably be attributed to the different locations of the strike point of the arcing from Saturn (on land, shallow sea, or ocean), and the fact that at different times the contact would have varied with the chance location of Saturn and the position of Earth.

7) It might even be suggested that plasma discharges to Earth decreased over time, being perhaps massive at the start of the Cambrian, then lessening sporadically, with another large hit (so to speak) at the end of the Permian.

8 ) Saturn may have been responsible for the development of all life (speciation) after the Cambrian, and especially the complex species which have developed since that time.

9) Speciation probably took place during or after every extinction period, although it might have taken many thousands of years before new species stabilized and would show up in the record.

10) The fact that Saturn was never deflected by the Solar System planet Jupiter would be explained by the fact that in 560,000,000 years Saturn would have entered the Solar System only 19 or 20 times.

11) Once the period of Saturn was significantly reduced at 6 or 3 million years ago, bringing it closer to the Sun more frequently (of which we have both physical and written records), smaller planets of the Sun would have a much greater chance of being captured into a sub-polar or supra-polar orbit by Saturn. This is the only stable location for planets which encounter Saturn on its periodic sweep through the inner region of the Solar System. In fact, it would be likely that over time all the smaller inner planets would be captured in this manner. Only planets further away from the Sun would be safe from this because they would be less likely to encounter Saturn.

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@ Doc,

Als je droomt, en je kijkt naar het hemelfirmament, dan zie je echt super mooie planeten, etc. Voor een ieder die meeleest en hier niet mee bekend is, probeer eens in je dromen naar de lucht te kijken: weinig dingen zijn zó verschrikkelijk mooi en spectaculair als dat.

Dit verbaast mij, ik heb wel eens gelezen / gehoord dat 'ze' (wetenschappers) als verklaring geven 'dat de hersens zich dit niet kunnen vormen en daardoor een vreemd beeld geven', net zoals met tijd (in je dromen kun je geen klok lezen). Maar het is toch vreemd dat je dus in je dromen allerlei planeten en kleuren en gewoon echt een schitterend hemelfirmament ziet. Wellicht een soort onderbewuste? Net als met archetypen? Die plaatjes van Combi uit die documentaire doen me daar enorm aan denken. Grote, prachtige rode paarse planeten allemaal. Echt schitterend mooi.
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2 Jan 2013 en het is meteen raak!

The Higgs Fiasco and the Electric Sun [ w/ videos]

So what is the problem? The problem is that the actual results announced by CERN do not match the Higgs field as it was advertised. Once the data from the summer announcement was finally released to the public in November,

The original Higgs data from back in July had shown that the Higgs seemed to be decaying into two photons more often than it should—an enticing though faint hint of something new, some sort of physics beyond our understanding. In November, scientists at the Atlas and LHC experiments updated everything except the two-photon data. This week we learned why.

Yesterday researchers at the Atlas experiment finally updated the two-photon results. What they seem to have found is bizarre—so bizarre, in fact, that physicists assume something must be wrong with it. Instead of one clean peak in the data, they have found two. There seems to be a Higgs boson with a mass of 123.5 GeV (gigaelectron volts, the measuring unit that particle physicists most often use for mass), and another Higgs boson at 126.6 GeV—a statistically significant difference of nearly 3 GeV.

This is explained as “a statistical fluke” or the result of a mechanical error. The CERN Large Hadron Collider team has announced that it will iron out these problems before March, when it plans to announce its success in finding the elusive particle. Others aren’t so sure. Science writer Michael Moyer observes “But more data has now arrived, and the blip hasn’t gone anywhere. The Higgs boson continues to appear to be decaying into two photons nearly twice as often as it should.”

This raises an ominous question: Are two different Higgs Boson particles any Higgs Boson particle at all? Have physicists simply discovered yet another of an infinite regression of particles? Have they discovered anything important at all?

Michael Moyer has his doubts. So does science writer Michael Slezak, noting that

The Higgs boson is sending mixed signals: its mass seems to vary depending on how it is measured. What’s more, oddities in the way it decays into other particles, first noticed when the team at the Large Hadron Collider announced the discovery of a new boson in July, do not seem to be going away.

It would be too much to say that either Moyer or Slezak doubt the Higgs discovery or the Standard Model generally. However, there is at least one school of scientists that entertains something considerably stronger than doubt. They’re ready to call the entire project of cosmology since Einstein fundamentally misguided. According to them, there are no black holes, no dark matter or energy, and there never was a Big Bang. According to this school of thought, all this is a misinterpretation of scanty experimental data.

In fact, according to them, it is something worse. Modern physics as we understand it, as has been explained to the public by science-spokesmen like Kaku, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Brian Greene, is almost entirely a product of mathematical modeling which decades ago unmoored itself from any responsibility to make deductions based upon observed data coming from nature. And the universe they describe looks quite different from the universe with which we have come to be familiar.

They are the Plasma Cosmology school, or, more popularly, the Electric Universe school. They claim to have observed anomalies all across the universe, things observed through telescopes that cannot be explained by the Standard Model. They claim a winning of streak of predictions they have made that have been confirmed, to the consternation of physics who live by the Standard Model. Such anomalies include the results of the Deep Impact collision on Comet Tempel One; they include galaxies that are redshifting at different speeds – according to what we have been told about the nature of redshifting – but which are visibly connected to each other.

Above all, they include the Sun, which has a number of features that have no satisfactory explanation according to the Standard Model. The Standard Model, which holds that the heart of the Sun is a fusion reactor, has great difficulty explaining why the solar atmosphere is millions of degrees hotter than the surface; why the corona exists at all; what sunspots are, and why, while being the parts of the Sun closest to the interior, are the coolest parts of the Sun’s surface; why the solar wind accelerates when it leaves the Sun; why the Sun has differential rotation at different latitudes; and several other features.

The core thesis of Electric Universe cosmology is that the predominant force in the Universe is not, as the Standard Model would have us believe, but rather, a vastly more powerful force: electromagnetism. The consequences of this difference are enormous. For instance, we now have a Sun whose power does not come from within it, but from outside. Both the Sun and other generators of power in the universe – Black Holes, pulsars, quasars, etc. – are rather to be understood as nodes in a cosmic webwork of electrical filaments spanning the universe. A star like our Sun is best understood as a node where two or more such filaments meet in space.

Electric Universe advocates point to more. They claim to have produced scalable examples of the Sun, the galaxy, and other bodies in laboratory experiments, using nothing but Electric Universe principles. Accordingly, they hold in polite scorn the physics we have come to know as a sort of elephantiasis of mathematics, in which anomalies are explained away by ad hoc speculation. Particles such as the Higgs Boson particle are perfect examples of such speculation. No one has actually observed them. They were inferred mathematically, then “proven” through experiments that offered various forms of indirect proof. Indirect -and, as we have seen with the Higgs, inexact as well.

The stakes are high, so the resistance is fierce. If the Electric Universe people are right, all physicists now working, are working on nothing; all physics students are learning nothing; enormous sums of money have been allocated for nothing. A scientific crisis quickly morphs into a vast professional crisis. And we who simply wish to learn about the universe will have to start over again from scratch.

en dan komen er de videos die we allemaal zo goed kenne!

heerlijk nieuw jaar allemaal behalve die rolstoelers oprotten hullie!

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Vandaag begint The tipping point conference in Albuquerque: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/09 ... g-point-2/

Natuurlijk is daar Wal Thornhill en Dave Talbott.

Maar wie is er vandaag ook?

Jno Cook!

Geweldig de jaren lange ruzie is bijgelegd.

Er gaat iets gebeuren daar waardoor Jno eindelijk erkenning krijgt voor zijn werk.

Het werd tijd.
De volgende gebruiker(s) zeggen bedankt: baphomet, blackbox, combi, Permuter 0., abrakadaver
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