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wat een idioot...heeft alles gewist !
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Cases of Time Slips
Nov 6th
by Jason Offutt
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/11/c ... ime-slips/


A white Ford pickup pulled up to cattle pasture near Ponca City, Oklahoma, in early Fall 1971, and stopped at a gate. Karl, Mark, and Gordon worked for cattle feed distributor and were sent to this remote area to pick up a feeder. What they found there has kept them silent for 41 years.

“We opened the gate, which was barbed wire with no lock, and entered,” Karl said. “We went on the property, which was covered with grass up to and over the hood of the truck.”

They drove through the tall grass to the tank that sat close to a red barn and got out of the truck.

“We realized the tank was almost half full and too heavy to load,” Karl said. “We decided to leave and drove around the red barn and we saw a large, two story white house, with no lights in front of us.”

The trio drove back to the cattle feed company and the boss said he’d drain the tank and they could pick it up tomorrow.

We went to the location to retrieve the tank the next night,” Karl said. “This time we decided to go through the old white big house on the hill and brought our shotguns.”

They drove onto the property over the path they’d made through the grass the day before and loaded the tank. Then they pulled around the barn toward the house. What they saw burned into their memories.

“It was no longer there,” Karl said. “We walked up the hill where it stood and there were no signs of demolition, no foundation, nothing at all. What we all seemed to witness the night before was no longer there. We have talked to each other over the years but none of us can begin to explain this vision.”

Did these men witness a slip in time?

Time slips have been reported throughout history. English women vacationing in France in 1901 claimed they stepped into the French Revolution, and two English couples traveling in Spain in the 1970s stayed at an oddly archaic hotel that was simply gone on their return journey.

Physicists like Albert Einstein, Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking have all said time travel is theoretically possible; our science just can’t achieve it. But what if nature can?

The light in the sky shown white, far from the greens and reds Jake saw during the Aurora Borealis of 2004, visible in North America as far south as the lower Midwest. Jake, 15, stood outside his parents home in the Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, around 10 p.m. 28 May, leaning against a truck and looking at the lights. He didn’t know his life was about to change.

“A bright white glow suddenly filled the northern horizon,” he said. “This looked nothing like the northern lights, nor did it behave like them.”

The light moved like the light of a copy machine. The single bar of brightness moved from west to east over Jake’s head and disappeared.

“I thought that I should maybe go inside at this time, and found myself unable to move,” he said. Numbness grew in his arms and legs and he blacked out. When he woke, he knew he’d been somewhere else.

“I felt woozy and almost sedated,” he said. “Time seemed muddled in my head.”

He walked into the house to find he’d been outside an hour. “It took most of the night for me to tell my parents what happened, and most of the time I kept telling them that I thought the calendar was wrong, it should at least be after 2008,” he said. “To this day, my mother remembers bits of this, mainly because I looked at her and asked point blank, ‘Is the black man president?’”

What happened to Jake? Seizure? Psychological phenomena? Or did Jake accidentally take a brief, four-year step into 2008?

Jake’s slip is just one in a long line of stories from people who have brushed against a different time, such as RAF pilot Sir Victor Goddard who encountered airplanes in 1935 that didn’t exist until 1939, and a 100-year-old Swiss watch found in a Chinese Ming dynasty tomb. People may slip like this all the time.

Kell opened the door of his 1999 Chevrolet S-10 next to a convenience store gas pump in Springfield, Missouri, when a large man accosted him.

“As I left the gas station, some large melon-headed man dressed in a business suit yelled, ‘What year is it?’” Kell said.

The man stood at a spot Kell would have walked by when he left the store, but he hadn’t seen him. The man wore a dark black suit “with a rough fiber texture,” Kell said. “Along the lines of the things Teddy Roosevelt could wear.”

“What year is it?” the man yelled again.

The man was white, about 35 to 40 years old, clean-shaven, normal, but he’d asked an odd question. Kell answered it.

“Two-thousand three,” Kell told him.

The man’s face contorted in anger.

“What year is it?” he screamed at Kell.

“Again I said ‘2003.’”

The large man screamed the question one more time.

“I said ‘2003’ so he could hear me,” Kell said. “Then he quit asking.”

Kell glanced away from the man as he slid into his truck, but safely inside, Kell turned to get another look at him. The man was gone.

“He disappeared from the front of the gas station,” Kell said. In the seconds it took Kell to slip into his truck, the man simply vanished. Kell looked, but the man hadn’t stepped inside the store – the only place he could have gone in that short amount of time. He was just gone.

“These stories are not so rare as people think,” Kell said. “But the stories are so bizarre that I don’t think anyone would want to come foreword to tell it. Who would believe you?”
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[quote=""blackbox" post=41649"][quote=""baphomet" post=41453"]Die processor was in ieder geval heel bijzonder... Laatst kreeg ik ook nog van iemand een mail over IBM zal even zoeken...[/quote]


Around the 80's, IBM Inventor and Scientist, Marcel J. Vogel found out that spinning water counterclockwise around his Vogel Crystals produced a wild, forceful antigravity forcefield. Here is a drawing which I channelled for a Yogic Flying and Teleportation (through the use of a wormhole) device called a Hoxcis PriSceptre. If anyone has the money to build it and teleport over to where I am on 3015 Oxford Rd, Atlanta, GA 30349, to visit me and thank me for the invention which I channelled from the Universe, please contact Rumi Da over at http://www.vogelcrystals.net and arrange for him to have Drew and Gil to make 2 Large 13 sided Vogel Crystals for the Hoxcis PriSceptre project. It should cost aroud $2000 to $2200.

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Thu 17 Jan 2013, 00:32

Zo'n soort techniek hadden ze volgens mij ook bij het Montauk Project.
In de erfenis der eeuwen ligt veel wijsheid opgetast. Ook hier geldt: dwaas is hij die zijn eigen geschiedenis versmaadt.
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Thu 17 Jan 2013, 00:48

[quote=""Toxopeus" post=65813"]Zo'n soort techniek hadden ze volgens mij ook bij het Montauk Project.[/quote]

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[quote=""combi" post=65815"][quote=""Toxopeus" post=65813"]Zo'n soort techniek hadden ze volgens mij ook bij het Montauk Project.[/quote]

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Het ultieme motief voor dergelijke verrichtingen zou energiegebrek zijn. Door een deel van een tijdzone te gijzelen of af te tappen, kan men over de 'ziele-energie' beschikken die wordt geleverd door de wezens die in die tijdzone gevangen zitten.
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In de erfenis der eeuwen ligt veel wijsheid opgetast. Ook hier geldt: dwaas is hij die zijn eigen geschiedenis versmaadt.
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Would Time Travellers Affect Security Prices? Financial Economics and Physics
by Richard Hudson

Abstract
Financial markets in a world with time travel would look very different from ours. But would time travellers come to our time, making our markets look like theirs? This paper discusses this issue and related matters such as the problem of prediction in financial economics, the nature of security prices, the social and mental nature of financial reality, and the relation of Financial Economics to Physics. It presents a solution to the problem of bilking behaviour of time travellers, and gives a definite answer to the title question.

Introduction
Since H.G. Wells (1895/1991), the advantages of time travel(1) for investors have been clear.(2) For the time traveller, risk would be replaced with certainty. Active investment policies would be far superior to passive. There would be no need for holding a diversified portfolio. Stock picking and market timing would make sense.

A model of equilibrium capital asset pricing in a time-travel world is presented in Reinganum (1986). Reinganum then uses this model to make some strong claims about the relation of economics to physics. In this paper, I will concentrate on the difficulties inherent in attempting to model human behaviour in a world far different from our own and on the necessarily intentional (mentalistic) aspect of financial economics.

Equilibrium capital asset pricing in a world with time travel

Reinganum's (1986) model of capital asset pricing is based on an arbitrage argument, and he arrives at a simple result: whatever the equilibrium prices for individual securities are, they will be unchanging over time and returns (nominal returns) will be zero on all securities throughout time.

For a time traveller, all investments are risk-free since she will have perfect knowledge of prices throughout time. In fact it makes no sense to talk of risk in a world of certainty. Reinganum (1986) claims time travellers will run around time, buying "underpriced" securities and selling (or shorting) "overpriced."(3) Security prices are really a function of supply and demand. Time travellers will supply or demand virtually infinite quantities of mispriced securities thus driving their prices to equilibrium levels. The equilibrium price will be the price that obtains in all temporal markets - otherwise arbitrage opportunities would still exist for time travellers. The existence of unchanging prices, of course, means rates of return, even in nominal terms, will be zero.

Because of the strange temporal nature of time travel, the adjustment in prices due to the trading activity of time travellers would be instantaneous, as seen by the time-bound. Time travellers from all time would be present en masse attempting to realize their arbitrage profits: the very first time traveller would meet multitudes from her future (and even multiple copies of herself) trying to engage in the same transactions she is trying to complete.

Economics and Physics

Financial markets in a time travel world would look far different from what we see. We don't see zero rates of return, zero inflation, and unchanging security prices. Instead we see lots of volatility in financial markets. Reinganum (1986) concludes that this means that time travel must be impossible. It is impossible, because if it were ever to exist, the effect would be seen already in our financial markets. So Economics, then, can show Physics the way in the complex issue of time travel. (Some physicists discuss time travel in a very serious way since nothing in Physics seems to outlaw it and some theories seem to require it.)(4) Reinganum (1986) claims: "This particular problem [i.e., the problem of time travel] shows that the tools of economics, a social science, can make a strong prediction about the physical universe."(5)

Whenever we claim that Economics can prove something to Physics, we must get worried. Economists have a hard time proving anything to anyone, even to themselves.(6) The question to ask here is whether anything could prevent a time travelling world's affecting the security prices we see, moving them to the time travel (unchanging) equilibrium prices.

Paradoxes and bilking behaviour

Reinganum does not talk about the paradoxes of time travel, and claims that there is no need to do so: since time travel is impossible, we need not worry about trying to understand the paradoxes which would exist if it were possible. But it is hard to discuss time travel without dealing with the paradoxical situations to which it seems inevitably to lead.

Lewis (1976) claims that any change to the past, even just being there when one had not been there "before," is paradoxical. But, as Brown (1992) notes, the really paradoxical situations come from actions which undermine their own circumstances (p. 436). Non-self-defeating actions, he believes, present no real problem. Horwich (1987) points out the difficulty of knowing whether time travellers had been present already in the past - e.g., the time travelling Horwich, who has no memory of ever having been punched in the nose, may have gone back in time and punched his earlier self on the nose: the fact he has no memory of this does not mean it didn't happen - he may merely have forgotten (p. 117). And, as Lewis (1976) notes, fully consistent causal loops, where the elements on the loop are caused by elements "earlier" on the loop, but later in time, present no real problem (except the problem of their origin).(7) Naturally, "mere-Cambridge changes" (see Ni, 1992) do not present a problem.

Paradoxical or self-refuting actions by time travellers seem possible because many different simple actions which we all may perform from time to time - such as killing babies or grandfathers(8) - can be self-refuting when undertaken by time travellers.(9) As Lewis (1976) notes there is an ambiguity in the word "can" when one speaks of what time travellers "can" do. He says of the time traveller Tim that (p. 151): "He can and he can't [kill Grandfather], but under different delineations of the relevant facts" - namely, he has ability and motivation, but, given the fact that Grandfather survived and the past cannot be changed, the time travelling Tim has no hope of succeeding. The problem of time travel is naturally linked to the old question of free-will versus determinism. Brown (1992) claims determinists would claim time travellers cannot do other than what they did, while compatibilists would claim time travellers can change the past but always choose not to. Horwich (1987) notes that there may be some consistency constraints on causality and that backward causality may simply be such that self-refuting actions are impossible.(10)

Horwich (1987), however, rejects his own argument about consistency constraints because he can see no mechanism that would make them work. The only two mechanisms he proposes are a "psychological quirk of time travellers" (p. 123) that makes them not want to take self-defeating actions, or "an endless string of improbable coincidences" (p. 123) which makes all attempts at self-defeating actions fail. However, he claims that our knowledge of human nature is such that we know some time travellers would attempt self-refuting actions, and he claims that it would make more sense to assume that time travellers would not fail when they tried to engage in bilking behaviour.(11) Horwich's conclusion is that time travel to the local past must be impossible for some physical reason. However, if travel to one's local past is possible, then something must prevent time travellers' taking self-refuting actions.

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Sat 16 Nov 2013, 21:01

De 40 minuten durende debunk video van hoaxhunter doet mij niet volledig overtuigd zijn van het feit dat de broer van die advocaat dan John Titor wel zal zijn. De vergelijkingen van teksten van beide personen en de woorden die beiden gebruiken zijn in mijn ogen vrij normale woorden...



Dus ik ben nog steeds niet overtuigd van wie John Titor dan geweest zou moeten zijn laat staan dat ik weet of het een slechte grap was of een boodschap met meer inhoud van iemand die echt iets trachtte duidelijk te maken...
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Hier nog een keer de vier tracks van het John Titor 2036 Time Travel Album:

Titor Phones Art

http://www.soundcloud.com/themabop/titor-phones-art

Stellar Corona

http://www.soundcloud.com/themabop/stel ... ngrowntear

Triangular Crystal Diamond

http://www.soundcloud.com/themabop/tria ... al-diamond

2036

http://www.soundcloud.com/themabop/2036 ... wntear-and
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Sat 25 Jan 2014, 21:47

Ach waar hebben jullie het 10 pagina's over?

Men kan slechts reizen terug in de tijd.
Als die gast hier is geweest hebben we dus hier NU een tijdmachine anders kon ie hier niet komen.
Men kan ook niet verder terug dan wanneer de tijdmachine is aangezet...
Zou je deze afzetten kan je niet meer terug naar waar je vandaan zou komen.

Dit is ALS er een machine zou bestaan...

Dus waarschijnlijk ook weer een hoaxer ;D
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Sat 25 Jan 2014, 22:06

Misschien toch eens dieper in het verhaal duiken dan Bl@de alvorens het af te doen als iets waar 'we' het tien pagina's lang over hebben. Als je je ook maar enigszins ingelezen zou hebben in de desbetreffende materie dan zou je namelijk weten dat er wat vreemde haken en ogen aan het verhaal zitten die tot op de dag van vandaag een groot mysterie blijven.

Just saying hoor. Ik snap namelijk niet waarom dit geen plausibel verhaal zou kunnen zijn en sommige andere conspiracies en complotten wel terwijl die juist vrij makkelijk en snel te debunken zijn.
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BL@DE wrote:Ach waar hebben jullie het 10 pagina's over?

Men kan slechts reizen terug in de tijd.
Als die gast hier is geweest hebben we dus hier NU een tijdmachine anders kon ie hier niet komen.
Men kan ook niet verder terug dan wanneer de tijdmachine is aangezet...
Zou je deze afzetten kan je niet meer terug naar waar je vandaan zou komen.

Dit is ALS er een machine zou bestaan...

Dus waarschijnlijk ook weer een hoaxer ;D
:S Ik kan er nu met mn logica niet bij dat je terug kan reizen in de tijd, ik kan dan ook geen touw vastknopen aan wat je zegt met dat als je een tijdmachine aanzet dat je dan zolang die aan blijft staan terug kunt gaan naar waar ie voor het eerst is aangezet :S:S
help me even.
Dit zeg ik dus ook als iemand die dit hele topic niet gevolgd heeft.
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Sat 25 Jan 2014, 23:27

Oh gelukkig, ik ben niet de enige die zich met tijd bezig houd. :)

Van de week ving ik ook meermaals op dat lineaire tijd niet bestaat.
Ook ik kwam in de problemen met de logica, want als ik het universum een beetje volg zit er overal lineaire tijd in.

Ons zonnestelsel draait rondjes van 26.000 jaar, die kun je optellen en als tijd zien. Ook zal het Melkwegstelsel in het verleden andere stelsels zijn tegengekomen om samen verder te gaan. Zoals dat in de toekomst met Andromeda gaat gebeuren. Zelfs als alles in het universum zichzelf herhaalt en als cyclisch gezien kan worden, kun je deze aantal cycli optellen wat dan weer als tijd gezien kan worden. Het enige wat er voor mij overblijft, zijn de paralelle universa. Er zal wel wat malware in dat tijdsapparaat van hem hebben gezeten en zo bij ons terecht gekomen zijn :P
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Sat 25 Jan 2014, 23:44

Ik weet niet waar dat parralelle universa gedoe vandaan komt, maar dat komt op mij een beetje over alsof het uit de hoge hoed van een rolstoeler is getrokken.
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